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		<title>By: joeylewis</title>
		<link>http://editorunleashed.com/2009/01/28/before-you-self-publish/comment-page-1/#comment-4617</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>come ladiespleasurestore we have five thousand products for your viewing pleasure.And for your enjoyment for women are man and we havd all types of adult toys and lingerie and movies and lots of lther stuff for you all pleasure.So check us out at new website see if wehave what you would like for your funand check us out.</p>
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		<title>By: joeylewis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wwlcome ladiespleasurestore we have five thousand products for your viewing pleasure.And for your enjoyment for women are men and we have all types of adult toys and lingerie and movies and lots of other for you all pleasure.So check us out new website see if we have what you would like for your fun and check us out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wwlcome ladiespleasurestore we have five thousand products for your viewing pleasure.And for your enjoyment for women are men and we have all types of adult toys and lingerie and movies and lots of other for you all pleasure.So check us out new website see if we have what you would like for your fun and check us out.</p>
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		<title>By: Most self-published books should never have been - SleepyJohn @7-books</title>
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		<dc:creator>Most self-published books should never have been - SleepyJohn @7-books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] publishers, I felt justified in posting a comment outlining my own experiences.  You can read the full post here.  What do you think of this issue?  To me, it has &#8216;The Future of Publishing&#8217; written [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] publishers, I felt justified in posting a comment outlining my own experiences.  You can read the full post here.  What do you think of this issue?  To me, it has &#8216;The Future of Publishing&#8217; written [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>Long Overdue Link Love &#124; WordWebbing.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] publishing is a hot topic everywhere, it seems, and Editor Unleashed explores this topic and much more. There&#8217;s also information how to use Twitter to your best [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I self published a book (a collection of stories) recently (and am satisfied with the publishers http://cinnamonteal.dogearsetc.com/). I agree with you that marketing it is the toughest part. The advantages were that I could make changes after the first book was printed, (initially, I did not have a detailed summary and bio, which I added later) and I could choose my own cover design (I chose from 5 or 6 and am completely satisfied). The expenses weren&#039;t attractive though, but I consider them an investment!

I came over from twitter, and have found a lot of good info at this site. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I self published a book (a collection of stories) recently (and am satisfied with the publishers <a href="http://cinnamonteal.dogearsetc.com/)" rel="nofollow">http://cinnamonteal.dogearsetc.com/)</a>. I agree with you that marketing it is the toughest part. The advantages were that I could make changes after the first book was printed, (initially, I did not have a detailed summary and bio, which I added later) and I could choose my own cover design (I chose from 5 or 6 and am completely satisfied). The expenses weren&#8217;t attractive though, but I consider them an investment!</p>
<p>I came over from twitter, and have found a lot of good info at this site. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Blog @ 7-books &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Most self-published books should never have been published</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog @ 7-books &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Most self-published books should never have been published</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] publishers, I felt justified in posting a comment outlining my own experiences.  You can read the full post here.  What do you think of this issue?  To me, it has &#8216;The Future of Publishing&#8217; written [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Self-publishing &#8211; the debate rumbles on &#171; bureauista</title>
		<link>http://editorunleashed.com/2009/01/28/before-you-self-publish/comment-page-1/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator>Self-publishing &#8211; the debate rumbles on &#171; bureauista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commented on this post a while back and then forgot all about it until @selfpubreview flagged it up for me on Twitter. The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SleepyJohn</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Elfwoman,

Excuse my tardiness, but here goes.  My new book is  a grownup fairy tale, not a memoir, and yes I think my general experience of the publishing process and putting books together undoubtedly helped.  However, there is nothing in the process of writing a book, formatting it for publication and sending it to a printer that you cannot learn about fairly easily on the internet, assuming you are a capable writer to begin with - no-one will write it for you..  And there are increasing numbers of internet companies that will do all this planning and formatting for you at reasonable cost.

I have recently set up my own blog to help me publicise and sell my book, and there are already a few posts on there that you might find helpful.  Click on my name to go there.  Writing and reading and posting on other blogs is I think a good way to try and get your name and book known.  It is so easy for someone to just click on a link if you make it sound interesting, then you can give them more information and a means to buy when they get to your website (which is separate from my blog, although linked).  I am emailing lots of book review blogs to try and get it reviewed, as I am sure a few good reviews will begin sending folk to my site for a look.  Then hopefully news will go round the huge audience that is connected to the web.  The potential is just mind-boggling.

It is clear from my researches and experience that anything remotely unusual (as my book is, and yours sounds like) is going to involve a massive, thankless, endless round of disinterested mainstream publishers.  I would not even consider it.  There is a fascinating article in a Canadian newspaper that I link to from my blog called &quot;Oh heck, I&#039;ll just publish it myself&quot;, which describes the healthy attitude of a number of people who wasted years of their lives flogging round conventional publishers before saying just that.  One has 50,000 self-published sales and still selling!

Do bear in mind, however, that a major complaint all across the internet about self-published books is that they are all too often not well enough edited to qualify as a professional product.  There is a link on my blog to a lady who reviews self-published books and her observations are worth reading.  You must edit, edit and edit again, and when you think it is perfect you get a friend to go through and edit, edit and edit again.  I have always considered a book finished only when I can read right through it three times without finding anything I want to change or correct.  It is amazing when you look back just how much your book will have improved through this ruthless process.  If you stumble even slightly over a sentence you must stop and say &quot;why?&quot; and keep saying it till you know.  Then correct it.  Good enough is not good enough, as someone once said.

Rather a long comment - hope nobody minds. Your book sounds interesting - bytes and compile sound somewhat computerish.  Care to elaborate briefly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Elfwoman,</p>
<p>Excuse my tardiness, but here goes.  My new book is  a grownup fairy tale, not a memoir, and yes I think my general experience of the publishing process and putting books together undoubtedly helped.  However, there is nothing in the process of writing a book, formatting it for publication and sending it to a printer that you cannot learn about fairly easily on the internet, assuming you are a capable writer to begin with &#8211; no-one will write it for you..  And there are increasing numbers of internet companies that will do all this planning and formatting for you at reasonable cost.</p>
<p>I have recently set up my own blog to help me publicise and sell my book, and there are already a few posts on there that you might find helpful.  Click on my name to go there.  Writing and reading and posting on other blogs is I think a good way to try and get your name and book known.  It is so easy for someone to just click on a link if you make it sound interesting, then you can give them more information and a means to buy when they get to your website (which is separate from my blog, although linked).  I am emailing lots of book review blogs to try and get it reviewed, as I am sure a few good reviews will begin sending folk to my site for a look.  Then hopefully news will go round the huge audience that is connected to the web.  The potential is just mind-boggling.</p>
<p>It is clear from my researches and experience that anything remotely unusual (as my book is, and yours sounds like) is going to involve a massive, thankless, endless round of disinterested mainstream publishers.  I would not even consider it.  There is a fascinating article in a Canadian newspaper that I link to from my blog called &#8220;Oh heck, I&#8217;ll just publish it myself&#8221;, which describes the healthy attitude of a number of people who wasted years of their lives flogging round conventional publishers before saying just that.  One has 50,000 self-published sales and still selling!</p>
<p>Do bear in mind, however, that a major complaint all across the internet about self-published books is that they are all too often not well enough edited to qualify as a professional product.  There is a link on my blog to a lady who reviews self-published books and her observations are worth reading.  You must edit, edit and edit again, and when you think it is perfect you get a friend to go through and edit, edit and edit again.  I have always considered a book finished only when I can read right through it three times without finding anything I want to change or correct.  It is amazing when you look back just how much your book will have improved through this ruthless process.  If you stumble even slightly over a sentence you must stop and say &#8220;why?&#8221; and keep saying it till you know.  Then correct it.  Good enough is not good enough, as someone once said.</p>
<p>Rather a long comment &#8211; hope nobody minds. Your book sounds interesting &#8211; bytes and compile sound somewhat computerish.  Care to elaborate briefly?</p>
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		<title>By: Elfwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elfwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sleepy John,

You&#039;ve confirmed something I have been wondering about -- that self-publishing is growing - and you have twelve professionally published books, so you must know something about the market.  

One thing I wonder about, tho, do you think your prior successes had anything to do with the successful self-publication of your memoir?   Also, how did you market?  

I&#039;m in the process of writing a Creative Nonfiction Memoir by writing what I call &#039;story-bytes&#039; that I plan to compile.  

Any ideas on whether to self-publish or not?

Elf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sleepy John,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve confirmed something I have been wondering about &#8212; that self-publishing is growing &#8211; and you have twelve professionally published books, so you must know something about the market.  </p>
<p>One thing I wonder about, tho, do you think your prior successes had anything to do with the successful self-publication of your memoir?   Also, how did you market?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the process of writing a Creative Nonfiction Memoir by writing what I call &#8217;story-bytes&#8217; that I plan to compile.  </p>
<p>Any ideas on whether to self-publish or not?</p>
<p>Elf</p>
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		<title>By: SleepyJohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>SleepyJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like the smugness of those who say a certain book should never have been published, simply because it does not reach up to the standards they impose.  I would refer them to Lorelei&#039;s post.  This is a big world and the internet makes it bigger by the minute.  There is room in it for  much more than just those books that the professional publishing houses, whose game is making money, deem to be good.  Even the most &#039;badly&#039; written book can have something to say to someone, and to pontificate that it should not be published is quite inexcusably arrogant.

Self publishing, as Bradley Robb pointed out, may not currently have the same independent spirit of indie music, but it will.  It is already snowballing.  I recently published a book myself, without using any organisation at all, with no financial outlay other than charges from the local printer for making the books.  Everything else I did alone on my computer.  I have a track record of twelve professionally published books, and one of the major factors in doing this one myself (different genre) was the memories of how long and dispiriting is the traditional route.  I have total control over everything - text, layout, cover, marketing, rights, and make a hugely bigger percentage on each sale than I would from a publisher.  And from finished manuscript to book in hand was about four days instead of a year!

Marketing is probably the biggest challenge, but it is increasingly clear to me that the scope on the internet for a self-publisher is simply mind-bogglingly enormous, with blogs etc.  It is a wonderful opportunity.  If you want to write and publish a book then do so, and sod the naysayers.  Do it now; you won&#039;t be able to do it when you&#039;re dead.  And if only your mother buys one, so what?  She&#039;ll be proud of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like the smugness of those who say a certain book should never have been published, simply because it does not reach up to the standards they impose.  I would refer them to Lorelei&#8217;s post.  This is a big world and the internet makes it bigger by the minute.  There is room in it for  much more than just those books that the professional publishing houses, whose game is making money, deem to be good.  Even the most &#8216;badly&#8217; written book can have something to say to someone, and to pontificate that it should not be published is quite inexcusably arrogant.</p>
<p>Self publishing, as Bradley Robb pointed out, may not currently have the same independent spirit of indie music, but it will.  It is already snowballing.  I recently published a book myself, without using any organisation at all, with no financial outlay other than charges from the local printer for making the books.  Everything else I did alone on my computer.  I have a track record of twelve professionally published books, and one of the major factors in doing this one myself (different genre) was the memories of how long and dispiriting is the traditional route.  I have total control over everything &#8211; text, layout, cover, marketing, rights, and make a hugely bigger percentage on each sale than I would from a publisher.  And from finished manuscript to book in hand was about four days instead of a year!</p>
<p>Marketing is probably the biggest challenge, but it is increasingly clear to me that the scope on the internet for a self-publisher is simply mind-bogglingly enormous, with blogs etc.  It is a wonderful opportunity.  If you want to write and publish a book then do so, and sod the naysayers.  Do it now; you won&#8217;t be able to do it when you&#8217;re dead.  And if only your mother buys one, so what?  She&#8217;ll be proud of you.</p>
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